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Corpora-List Do you think LINGUISTICS is SCIENCE or ARTS?

26 Mar

@DW

> One of the dangers of contrasting (for example) statistics with logic is that this is really about comparing empiricist and  rationalist methods.

I agree that one should not confuse mathematical methods with any kind of dogma — empiricist, rationalist, or theological.

Mathematical methods, including logic and statistics, are neutral with respect to any kind of application. For example, one could apply statistics to bridge either by a priori calculation of the probabilities or by gathering data about how people play the game.

@DW

> … every new science must find a fertile balance between these scientific methods, and the recent swing from “linguistics should  be rationalist” to “linguistics should be empiricist” takes us to  another glass ceiling.

As a science, linguistics is as old as Aristotle, and the pendulum is always swinging. In the 1950s, information theory and grammar discovery procedures were dominant, and Charles Fries did some very interesting work with the tiny corpora available.

In the late ’50s, Chomsky began his campaign against statistics, information theory, grammar discovery procedures, and finite-state machines. Instead, he promoted “the native speaker’s intuition” (i.e., his own intuition) as the ultimate standard.

Computational linguists have always been more empirical. Even when they used their own intuition to write grammar rules, they tested them by running their systems on actual data. That’s just as empirical as a physicist’s using intuition to write a theory and then testing its predictions against the data.

The ultimate criterion for science is the ability to make predictions about future observations. It’s irrelevant whether the methodology began with intuition, statistical analysis, or some combination of both.

John Sowa

Corpora-List Do you think LINGUISTICS is SCIENCE or ARTS?

26 Mar

The discussion on whether linguistics is science or arts is very interesting and stimulating, but it seems many of us forget that this, rather young, classification is very superficial, imprecise and a little bit forceful. In the beginnings of science (let me naively narrow the scope to “Aristotle and surroundings”) there was no division into such “hard” and “soft” sciences – there was just “science” in the meaning of “using the head mainly to think and not to bang one’s head against a brick wall” (read: philosophy). However, it does seem that contemporary science needs such distinctions, as there are many scientists preferring the latter.

Michal

Corpora-List Do you think LINGUISTICS is SCIENCE or ARTS?

25 Mar

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Yuri Tambovtsev wrote:

Dear Corpora colleagues, Do you think LINGUISTICS is SCIENCE or ARTS? I think the discussion about linguistics using either the scientific or artistic methods, is quite interesting. Really, is it ARTS (the Humanities) or Science. If we divide this man activity into Sciences and Arts, then linguistics for the exception of phonetics is Arts. Can linguistics reconstruct some parent language? We know that all the Romance languages have the parent language, i.e. Latin. But can linguists reconstruct Latin on the basis of Italian, Spanish, French and other Romance languages? The answer is NO. If linguistics had been SCience, then it would have been possible. But it is ARTS, thus it is impossible. Or am I mistaken? Looking forward to hearing from you either directly yutamb@mail.ru or via the net.

Be well, Yuri Tambovtsev
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This is a good question, but not one that can have a fully satisfying answer. Personally, I want to extend the title “linguist” to everyone who studies language in a serious way. Given that, I find myself confronted with a bewildering range of approaches, and little commonality between the activities of different kinds of linguist. The range clearly includes things that could be seen as physics or physiology, others that look more like philosophy, sociology, history, geography, psychology, various flavors of biology, lots of computer science, different kinds of pure and applied mathematics,
anthropology, cultural studies, and so on, even up to astrobiology and cryptography. Some of these satisfy my internal gut feeling for what sciences are like, others not so much. Even the ones that don’t seem especially scientific have a tendency to fit squarely into the German term “Geisteswissenschaften”. Literally, this means “sciences of the spirit”, in practice it corresponds to what the Anglo-Saxons tend to call “Arts” or “Humanities”. By this stage in my thinking I am inclined to reject the dichotomy implied in the question.

I think Linguistics is a good example of why we should not worry too much about whether things are sciences, and why we should worry more about whether the work we are doing will make an important difference to anything that we care about. The second question is quite challenging enough.

Chris

ma non troppo

10 Feb

Flame on:

The rest of the world is not bound to the jargon in Schenectady, New York. As a genuine criterion you do not have to fear ze clarity  “der Menschen Wort“. Those who do not like to hear a PC sing, consult your part in the user manual or: Press 1 for English (*)!

To gain a basic vocabulary there are many drive-in-lessons. You can always get your money back thanks to a 30-days money back guarantee! Luckily, you are able to start speaking and understanding English (*) after a few hours, so you don’t have to wait till the end of the course before you begin to see results. I would be surprised if English (*) wouldn’t work for you if you are willing to give it a try. And should it not work for some mysterious reason, you can always get all of your money back thanks to an excellent 30-days money back guarantee.

Sometimes, more knowledge of English (*), designed for independent learners, is necessary. To get a better grasp of Shakespeare frequently is one reason, a supplemental life another. In order to achieve this, an ESP is not appropriate. BTW, “Those who publish only one major work written in Hebrew will never get a tenure. ” is well-known, but basically wrong. Most of the NT uses an ancient ESP called Koine Greek. Lacking expressiveness, even without wikifying, never had been a problem. Should you anyhow feel a strong desire to learn more English (*) and do not follow Garbo’s advice to suppress it, please remember that you can always get all of your money back thanks to an excellent 30-days money back guarantee. In over 40 states to improve your own English (*) is made easy, using proven and tested methods.

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For most of the accomplishments of the English (*) Empire it is 2l8, as they are hardly to use as is, if at all. Only few agreeable aspects will remain. There is a chance that diverse variants of the English (*) language will. Nowadays, all boys and girls are fluent in Mandarin, as the People’s Republic of China grants asylum.

Flame off, not really.

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